In a recent interview with CBS Sports, Paul Heyman discussed several topics, including why he thinks that CM Punk is a far more compelling character now than what he was over a decade ago.

“If you had told me that in 2012, that 12 years later CM Punk would be a far more fascinating character than he is now at the height of his rebellious status, I’d say that’s just not in the cards for him, and yet I look at what he did with Drew McIntyre and realize that he’s so much more interesting now, he has a deeper connection with the audience now, which I never imagined would have been possible.

You realize that rebels age out, and once they do, they can no longer be the embodiment of the disruption that progresses against the establishment, and yet he is now the older rebel with a little more wisdom behind him and a little more tact involved and he’s that much more compelling version of a character and persona, let alone his ability to portray it, than ever before.”

The full interview is available at this link.