In a recent interview with Collider, John Cena discussed several topics, including the impact of wins and losses in wrestling.

“One of the biggest hang-ups in the middle portion of my career was that, spoiler alert, John wins. What people don’t understand is, I think now maybe, as we begin to reflect back here on this last run of like, hey man, I was in it for the long haul.

The way you make those losses impactful is sometimes you’ve got to win, and sometimes you’ve got to win a lot. Any time you can pass energy on to somebody, that’s kind of the life cycle of the business, you come in an unknown and hopefully, you get the flywheel spinning, you create all this energy on your way out, you pay it forward, you pass it off.”

The full interview is available at this link.